Home › Forums › Benchmarking e-learning with the e-Learning Maturity Model (eMM) › Live presentation Tuesday 11 August: Recording and chat transcript
Thank you to those of you who took part in Antoinette Mukendwa’s online live presentation. In case you missed this session then the recoding is available here. For the transcript from the Adobe Connect chat, please see below:
Jakob Pedersen:Hi Antoinette
Antoinette Mukendwa:Hi Jakob
Antoinette Mukendwa:Sorry I’m late
Jakob Pedersen:Not a problem! I am on ipad at the moment and am stuggling a bit to get my laptop working. But good you are on. At least we can check sound
Jakob Pedersen:I am just trying to say something to check if you can hear sound
Antoinette Mukendwa:No. nothing
Antoinette Mukendwa:I can hear you
Antoinette Mukendwa:But it seems you cant hear me
Jakob Pedersen:Alright.. no sound from you. Could you please try and run the Audio Setup Wizard under Meeting..?
Antoinette Mukendwa:Ok. I’ll try again. It didn’t work the first time
Jakob Pedersen:also once you wish to talk please locate the microphone at the top and click until it turs green
Antoinette Mukendwa:It’s already green
Antoinette Mukendwa:Just asked one of our IT guys to assist
Antoinette Mukendwa:Please be patient
Jakob Pedersen:Great! Not a problem 🙂
Jakob Pedersen:I hope we can et this to work
Jakob Pedersen:If I appeared offline for a bit then I am back and will stay in the room
Antoinette Mukendwa:Hi Jakob
Antoinette Mukendwa:I think I’m sorted
Jakob Pedersen 2:definitely sound 🙂
Antoinette Mukendwa:Shall we test it?
Antoinette Mukendwa:Or you can alredy hear me?
Jakob Pedersen 2:Please try and talk 🙂
Jakob Pedersen 2:I can hear you
Oni:pls when is the seminar coming up in Nigeria time, thanks
Jakob Pedersen:Hi Oni this will be 1 pm in Nigeria i.e. in about an hour
Oni:am looking forward to gain something new from the seminar. am new on the forum thanks
Gerrit Wissing:Hallo Japie!
Gerrit Wissing:I’ve got a new machine, just came in to test quickly. Will duck out now, but be back just before the start
Jakob Pedersen:Goeie Dag Meneer Wissing! Great glad you all tech’ed up for this 😉
Antoinette M:Hi Jakob
Antoinette M:Hi everyone!
Jakob Pedersen:Hi Antoinette!
Antoinette M:I’m ready and set to go
Jakob Pedersen:I hope a few more will join us
Antoinette M:Shall we test the sound?
Jakob Pedersen:yes good idea
Brenda:Hello to all
Jakob Pedersen:Hi Brenda and welcome
Antoinette M:Hi Brenda
Rita Kizito:Hi to all
Tony Carr:Hello Antoinette! and Brenda, Gerrit, Rita, Jakob 🙂
Jakob Pedersen:Welcome Tony!
Antoinette M:Hello Rita. Hi Tony!
Tony Carr:Hi Kolawole, Nicola 🙂
Antoinette M:Hi everyone!
Tony Carr:nice, clear sound
Jakob Pedersen:All fine Antoinette!
Jakob Pedersen:On my list to visit!
kolawole:I can hear loud and clear
kolawole:Hello to all
Oni:i can hear loud and clear, nice audio voice
kolawole:Yes Antoinette you got the name right
Oni:i hope i can have access to the recording after the presentation, my internet is breaking though still audible.
kolawole:Yes, you will get the recording. The session is being recorded
Jakob Pedersen:Oni we will make the recording available alter and this should work on even slower connections
Oni:thanks all, interesting am enjoying myself
Gerrit Wissing:Should be possible
kolawole:mergeable workbooks should be possible
Gerrit Wissing:…to merge workbooks. Could get complex if you merge on tab level rather than just the summaries
kolawole:ANTONIETTE I am interested in working with you as regards my institution
Gerrit Wissing:eMM website: http://www.utdc.vuw.ac.nz/research/emm/
Brenda:Thanks – a worthwhile exercise!
Tony Carr:that was great – thanks
Nicola:very insightful:) Thank you
kolawole:Nice presentation ANTONIETTE
Nicola:Anything in the eMM on lecturer capabilities and attitudes?
Gerrit Wissing:Lots of resources too: http://www.cad.vuw.ac.nz/research/emm/publications.php
Antoinette M:I’m glad to hear that!
Tony Carr:kolaole’s hand is raised
Gerrit Wissing:Nicola also had a question in the text box
Nicola:we hear you:)
Tony Carr:hello there Kolawole!
Gerrit Wissing:Hearing you, Kolawole
Jakob Pedersen:Thank you Gerrit – I will add these resources to the landing page later
kolawole:Yes you have answered my question
Gerrit Wissing:How long does it take to complete an assessment? Quite a comprehensive workbook to complete
Nicola:thanks – I will have a look:)
kolawole:Is the workbook available online
Brenda:Can you hear me?
Tony Carr:very quiet
Antoinette M:All the documentation is available on the website
Tony Carr:a bit
Antoinette M:I’ll send the link shortly
Tony Carr:still too soft
Brenda:Will write my question here
Nicola:on the emm site http://www.cad.vuw.ac.nz/research/emm/publications.php
Brenda:REgarding the earlier question about wehter anyone is fully compliant …
Brenda:Perhaps not all the measures are relevant for every institution?
Brenda:THis is a comprehensive framework for refereence, and we should adapt and focus on what is relevant for each?
Brenda:This may asist in asceratining the nature of our own institution
Nicola:The model involves making judgements about quality, so perhaps it’s more evaluative than helping us with research questions such as why i.e. why are we not adequate – better understanding underlying institutional culture stuff such as lack of incentives for online teaching, etc. How do you see the usefulness of eMM for these kinds of understandings?
Tony Carr:Related to Brenda’s , Nicola’s and Kolawole’s questions I am wondering if there is a need for an enhancement when applying eMM to institutions that mostly teach face to face – so there is an integration with more generic Learning maturiity other wise the learning aspect of eMM is unsupported institutionally
Nicola:Good point Tony, so institutions that collaborate need to have similar structures because their strategies will be different based on this and these are part of the methodology
Nicola:Like one can’t compare a majority face-t-face mode uni to a distance ed one is terms of eMM findings is what you are saying Tony?
kolawole:That is great because communication gap has always been a serious issue between the students and facilitators
Gerrit Wissing:I suppose one could adapt the assessment to align with the uni’s strategic objectives. Downside is that one will loseability tobenchmark compare with other uni’s
Nicola:Perhaps we need one for facilitating online in particular?
Nicola:Some fine-grained quality framework
kolawole:Since paradigm has shifted frrom teacher-centred to learner-centred the approach decribed by Antoniette is the best
Nicola:Yip – agree
Nicola:Yes, you are thank you:) I was wondering if it gives insight into anything that can strengthen qualitative stuff
Nicola:Tony and I were talking about collaborating institutions, that they might need to be similar
Gerrit Wissing:@Nicola: perhaps one could use the instrument to highlight concerns, which one can then examine qualitatively from up close..?
Tony Carr:and lets also continue the conversation in the forum at http://goo.gl/shkgGA
kolawole:I will be interested in anybody that will be ready to collaborate with me in working on my institution including Antoniette
Tony Carr:maybe we should issue an invitation in the next e/merge mail for institutions that want to benchmark against each other using eMM?
Nicola:Yes, Gerrit that’s a good idea
Gerrit Wissing:I suppose one would have to find a way to calibrate the assessment when benchmarking, to ensure evalutions are consistent between institutions
Oni:Nice presentation, am learning new things now
Gerrit Wissing:@Antoinette: How long does it take to complete an assessment: it’s pretty comprehensive
Antoinette M:Sorry. I am not very good at multitasking
Antoinette M:I missed some of your points
Tony Carr:I think it takes a bit of courage to do an exercise like eMM
Tony Carr:perhaps we might be a bit nervous about what we will discover 😉
Antoinette M:But I’ll have a look at the recording and answer any questions I missed in the discussion forum
Antoinette M:Is that ok?
Nicola:and who speaks for an institution – I imagine this is quite an issue. Should it be eLearning people, library people, managers, deans, etc.
Brenda:and different faculties have different practices …
Nicola:so a mix of people?
Nicola:that is what you recommend
kolawole:Everybody involve should be involved including the assistants
Tony Carr:not so easy in a very federalised institution with diverse practices even within each teaching department
Gerrit Wissing:It would be ideal if the assessment are driven from institutional leadership to ensure buy-in and compliance
Rita Kizito:Colleagues please excuse me I have to leave now
Nicola:yes, I was also wondering about those kinds of discrepancies
Tony Carr:see you in the forum Rita
Jakob Pedersen:Thank you Rita for participation!
Nicola:Thanks for joining us Rita:)
kolawole:Those discrepancies are even good for one to be able to get facts
Gerrit Wissing:@Antoinette: the discrepancy will be there between institutions too. Definitely workshops to calibrate the assessment. In Windhoek will work best, or Cape Town
kolawole:You should expect that the response of managers will be different from the students response
Nicola:Also got to run, but I really enjoyed this session – thanks so much Antoinette, I really enjoyed your session:) It really clarified some things for me
Jakob Pedersen:Thanks for joining Nicola!
Gerrit Wissing:Somebody stole Antoinette :D. Or her sound, anyway…
Brenda:Lost audio – will sign off now. Many thanks for an interesting discussion!
Tony Carr:thanks to Antoinette and all here!
Jakob Pedersen:Thank you to Antoinette and all of you for participating – Chat transcript and recording will be available shortly on our landing page, discussion forum and Facebook event page
Gerrit Wissing:Thanx for comng to tell us about this, Antoinette. A stitch in time…
Gerrit Wissing:Cheers all!
Jakob Pedersen:Dankie Gerrit
Oni:i really enjoyed the presentation and question sessions, though i dont have a question now but i believe when i go through the recording again i will be able to get the real deal about the application. thanks to the presenter
Antoinette M:Hi everyone
Antoinette M:So sorry
Antoinette M:The sorrows of technology
Antoinette M:I hope I didn’t mess anything crucial
Jakob Pedersen:Hi Antoinette we decided to end just after loss of connection to you so nothing crucial
Thanks to Antoinette for leading a most engaging and helpful event.
My takeaways are that:
1) Benchmarking is an important part of both evaluation and improvement processes
2) eMM is well designed, thorough and well documented
3) eMM can’t do everything so it can usefully be combined with other approaches
4) Comparisons are most likely to be useful between institutions with similar goals and characteristics
5) Its important to involve several stakeholders but may not be easy to come up with consolidated scores
6) It would be interesting to try out eMM across several African institutions and to benchmark across similar institutions.
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